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I'm still waiting for delivery of CDS tube for making up lower wishbones . Having mentioned I was doing this to someone else(not a Stylus owner)he asked if I'd make adjustable panhard rods as well . So I'll be making one for him but before ordering bits/bobs thought I'd ask if anyone else is interested :?: I'll make them with a left and right hand insert so that it can be adjusted without removing bolts for half a turn or whole turn . Simply loosen the locknuts and twist the panhard tube any amount and re tighten . Supplied treated/painted including the 1/2 in with 5/8 ths shank rodends . Tube will be CDS 1 inch outer diameter . PM me if interested :roll: Strength wise the rodends will be 31,000 lbs items :wink:
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I made an adjustable panhard rod for mine a while back but I just used a single handed thread. The pitch of the thread means I can get close enough that it makes no difference in setting up, but the main reason I used a single handed thread was because if the lock nut fails/loosens then the first thing you will know about it is the axle going out the side of the car!!
I also put a kink in the panhard rod to clear the bottom of the dif.
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Using right and left hand rodends isn't a problem , just put a little locktite in front of the halfnut before tightening . I modified the chassis end mounting for the panhard in 2005 , so it doesn't contact the diff plus the angle of the rod is better in weight transfer . My bracket is welded directly under the existing mount which goes through the seatpan .ie it's 2 inches below the seatpan mounting point welded to the underside , in line with the original .
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i did the same as Rob and it clears the diff, which is an atlas so a bit bigger
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Rob. Add me to the list, cheers.

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Don't forget the measurements of your bottom wishbones Kev re - making your set . Did you mean them OR do you want the adjustable panhard rod ?
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Definitely the Panhard rod.

Not sure about the front suspension at the moment, due to the new wheels. I will fit them & check first. But cant do until the middle of May. If that's OK with you.

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OK Kev , I'll await your measurements re-- wishbones in a few weeks . Panhard will be made as per original standard bolt centres for the Stylus which is 780mm's unless when you check yours it's any different :?:
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The panhard I've just made for Dave will adjust 10mm's shorter and 10mm's longer (easily) than a standard STYLUS panhard , so it's interesting that FURY's have the same panhard length as the STYLUS :roll: Not done one for a PHOENIX yet so they could be different .
My point being that any length between 770mm's up to 790mm's (even 800mm's) bolt centre to bolt centre , can use this panhard without being made to spec ' . The reason for this is that by using a 1/2 in rose joint but with a 5/8 ths shank , the shank is longer than a 1/2 x 1/2 rose joint plus stronger so can be extended without a weakness :wink:
I just love the Stylus but she keeps swallowing £££ !
Alfa Red 159 2.4 jtdm ti 260bhp 365lbft / BilsteinB12 + Adjustable Powerflex camber/castor bushes. Red STYLUS 2lt zetec 231bhp 185lbft Dunnell . RED 1972 Alfa 2lt GTAm replica 170bhp.

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Three panhard adjustables made and posted so far --- didn't realise people were keen to get their cars alighned properly , so it just goes to show if you don't say it's available then there's no interest :roll: Two more ARB's just made up for a Stylus and a Striker :!:
Another interesting point is that the panhard in Fury's and Stylus's are identical in length centre to centre :wink: Maybe JP kept things standard across all his kit designs :?: Jeremy Phillips has also let it be known that he'd like to retire providing he can find a buyer with similar attitudes to kit design , cost and racing as himself :o Well he has been at it very successfully for 30 years now 8)
It'll be interesting to see who can fill his shoes :wink:
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One thing that has become clear after making an ARB for the Striker is that the link rods need to be a lot shorter than I actually made for it . Possibly the spring lengths/ride height on this particular car but I had to swap them for a pair 190mm's with the rose joints screwed right in , to clear the lower chassis rails when cornering/ braking . He's off to test it on Friday so I'll probably here whether ' they ' are actually short enough after that :oops:

With cars all running different chassis heights and spring rates , also drivers weighing 11 to 18 st , it's very difficult to be spot on with the link rod length . He lived quite near me so it was easy for me to make up another pair ------- for most people it's easier to simply cut off an appropriate ammount and 8mm re-tap . (or post them back to me to do it). :)
I just love the Stylus but she keeps swallowing £££ !
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Just had a text from Simon at Abingdon in his Striker to say he thinks his car now handles great and is having a blast ---- link rod lengths are fine at 190mm's 8)
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Antnicuk's rotary engined beast , now owned by 'dern' needed new lower front wishbones which I've just finished , including ARB attachments specific to the car-- they were a little bent . (Tony made and fitted his own conventional -- w.bone to w.bone antirollbar) They're slightly wider than the one's made for MattD so's the rodends aren't fully extended --- they're also 5/8ths shank all round.
Pic's of wishbones using 1/2 in rodends with 5/8ths shank 31,000lbs rating but not fitted yet .
The outer rodend will fit into an existing Escort upright using an adapter pin which MattD had made when I made his wishbones.

2nd coat of paint tomorrow :wink:
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Wishbones x 2 coats Bilthamber (Large).jpg
Wishbones with threaded inserts for ' dern ' s Rotary Stylus (Large).jpg
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Finished now :) They will adjust 8mm's narrower ie. 16mm's narrower track but also adjust comfortably 20mm's wider , making 40mm's wider track if need be.
I'll set the width at the 260mm's centre to centre pivot as per his old wishbones as a starting point.
You can see the bend in the old one near the Sherpa ball joint end in the pic's. It'll take a day or two before being dry enough to post .
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Posted today :wink:
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