Page 1 of 1
Diff bolts.
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 11:02 am
by se7ensport
Having read Rob's info on the green car I think I may have the wrong size diff bolts, occasionally I get a clonk at the back, it's usually caused when I go from reverse to forward or forward to reverse, otherwise I can dump the clutch has hard as I like and nothing happens.
What size should they be? Are they easy to change i.e. does the diff require supporting or can you push the old bolts out with the new one?
Cheers
Alex
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:08 pm
by alecmartin19
this sounds like either the bolts like you said or possibly a worn UJ or backlash in the diff itself.
what kind of diff have you got? is it sierra or escort live axle? my escort live axle has threaded holes in the nose of the diff so you can only fit one size of bolt. let me know and i'll try and help.
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:10 pm
by alecmartin19
also, do you get a clunk when you back off the throttle or when you put it back on again or is the engine too loud to hear that?
Re: Diff bolts.
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:51 pm
by stylussprinter
se7ensport wrote:Having read Rob's info on the green car I think I may have the wrong size diff bolts, occasionally I get a clonk at the back, it's usually caused when I go from reverse to forward or forward to reverse, otherwise I can dump the clutch has hard as I like and nothing happens.
What size should they be? Are they easy to change i.e. does the diff require supporting or can you push the old bolts out with the new one?
Cheers
Alex
I think you're refering to the threaded rod around 10 inches long(two of them)that secure the Seira diff to the dedion frame
Originally P.Powell used 12mm but Tim fits and suggests others upgrade to 1/2 inch which will fit . Another upgrade around the symptom you describe on the dedion axle is to steady the frame further but you need to talk to Tim as it's his own mod' and I've no experience of it. I said I'd change them on the green car but didn't as they appeared to be very solid so possibly were 1/2 inch
As for how easy , you would need the car in the air then support the diff ---- then knock them out with a bolt .
Rob(you do have a dedion don't you
)
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:58 pm
by se7ensport
Hi Alec
No clunk on lift off and there is minimal play in the diff & UJ joints.
It's the de-dion set up, and the bolts run through the diff rather than bolt into it. The clunk only seems to happen when the diff is made to run in the opposite direction and once the clunk has happen you can't repeat it without going in the other direction. I'm clinging to the idea of diff bolts as they have to be the cheapest and quickest fix
re: loudness, I'm pleasantly surprised and can actually hear stuff other than the exhaust note, it's sounds great but doesn't give me ear ache, unlike previous cars!
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 4:41 pm
by Schrodinger
If that a sierra dif then that should have threaded holes on the drive plate so you shouldn't be able to put the wrong size in, unless somebody has put smaller bolts through with nuts on or drilled them out at some stage.
sierra diff
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 4:54 pm
by stylussprinter
Schrodinger wrote:If that a sierra dif then that should have threaded holes on the drive plate so you shouldn't be able to put the wrong size in, unless somebody has put smaller bolts through with nuts on or drilled them out at some stage.
Alex is refering to the long threaded rod , two of them , that hold the diff' casting onto the dedion frame. Not the diff' flange.
Rob.
Re: Diff bolts.
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 4:57 pm
by se7ensport
stylussprinter wrote:se7ensport wrote:Having read Rob's info on the green car I think I may have the wrong size diff bolts, occasionally I get a clonk at the back, it's usually caused when I go from reverse to forward or forward to reverse, otherwise I can dump the clutch has hard as I like and nothing happens.
What size should they be? Are they easy to change i.e. does the diff require supporting or can you push the old bolts out with the new one?
Cheers
Alex
I think you're refering to the threaded rod around 10 inches long(two of them)that secure the Seira diff to the dedion frame
Originally P.Powell used 12mm but Tim fits and suggests others upgrade to 1/2 inch which will fit . Another upgrade around the symptom you describe on the dedion axle is to steady the frame further but you need to talk to Tim as it's his own mod' and I've no experience of it. I said I'd change them on the green car but didn't as they appeared to be very solid so possibly were 1/2 inch
As for how easy , you would need the car in the air then support the diff ---- then knock them out with a bolt .
Rob(you do have a dedion don't you
)
Rob
Thats the ones, as it's just threaded rod I'll pick some 1/2 inch up and give it a go.
Schroder
Where the flange mounts it uses the original bolts, it's actually the whole diff that I think it moving.
Cheers All
Alex
1/2" bolts
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:51 pm
by se7ensport
Another sod of a job to fit, should have taken 30mins but took 3 hours
The holes between the diff and the mount were a very tight fit requiring the bar to be wound in, with only a small amount of movement availble for the spanner it was really frustrating.
Made a real difference, no more loud clonks, it's also made down shifting smoother (i didn't notice the play originally, but I have the difference!).