I've gone mad

Cerberus · Post by **Cerberus** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:35 pm

And ripped out the engine, flipped the front etc, can anybody advise on which fuel pump to go for as i am now running injection i've tried looking at demon tweeks online but their site hasn't been updated, the only one i could find was a weber alpha and thats over £400, so if somebody has a catalogue and would be so kind as to have a butchers for me, or if you know off the top of your head?, the other engine goes in tomorrow, will i need a swirl pot as well?

Phil

Post by **hearbear** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:07 am

You will need a swirl pot as the tank has to pull the fuel up to the outlet on the tank.

Cheers George

stylussprinter · Post by **stylussprinter** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:18 am

The pump you had will fill the swirl pot(if it's a decent FACET) then an injection pump from pot to engine , like a SYTEC from TWEEKS at £120 to £128 . Not sure what pressure you require for your XE . That way you wont have to fit a new fuel line from the TANK to ENGINE as carb' sufficient fuel line wont do if you fit an in tank injection pump. Don't know where you get a figure of £400 though ? MERLIN at Castle Coombe will also sell this stuff and close to you !

Rob.

Cerberus · Post by **Cerberus** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:18 am

stylussprinter wrote:The pump you had will fill the swirl pot(if it's a decent FACET) then an injection pump from pot to engine , like a SYTEC from TWEEKS at £120 to £128 . Not sure what pressure you require for your XE . That way you wont have to fit a new fuel line from the TANK to ENGINE as carb' sufficient fuel line wont do if you fit an in tank injection pump. Don't know where you get a figure of £400 though ? MERLIN at Castle Coombe will also sell this stuff and close to you !

Rob.

Hi Rob, the pump i had/have is a (don't laugh) a mechanical one run by the cam, the £400 version was a weber alpha, so it looks like i will take a trip to merlin after xmas, and just carry on fitting and making it look nice for now thanks.

Phil

kevp · Post by **kevp** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:49 pm

This is the set up I use.

18389D FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 1.6 9/92 >7/94 72.50 Add
18389D FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 1.8 SPi 11/91 >7/94 72.50 Add
18389D FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 1.4 11/91 >7/94 72.50 Add
18389F FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 1.8 SPi 8/94 >2/99 74.50 Add
18389F FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 1.4 & 1.6 8/94 >7/95 74.50 Add
18389G FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 2.0 8v MPi 11/91 >7/94 82.50 Add
18389G FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 VR6 1/92 >7/94 82.50 Add
18389G FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 16V 8/92 >7/94 82.50 Add
18389J FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 1.6 8/95 >2/99 76.50 Add
18389J FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 2.0 8v MPi 8/94 >2/99 76.50 Add
18389J FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 1.4 8/95 >12/97 76.50 Add
18389J FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 16V & VR6 8/94 >12/97 76.50 Add

Current Prices from German & Swedish. This list is for VW Golf mk 3.
More than enough for most Stylus cars. Just need a lifter pump.
I run a small solid state unit but they arer not recomended as they need some back pressure.
The other option is to spend multiples of 100 £s to achieve the same.

Merry Christmas all
Kev

Cerberus · Post by **Cerberus** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:35 pm

kevp wrote:This is the set up I use.

18389D FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 1.6 9/92 >7/94 72.50 Add
18389D FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 1.8 SPi 11/91 >7/94 72.50 Add
18389D FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 1.4 11/91 >7/94 72.50 Add
18389F FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 1.8 SPi 8/94 >2/99 74.50 Add
18389F FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 1.4 & 1.6 8/94 >7/95 74.50 Add
18389G FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 2.0 8v MPi 11/91 >7/94 82.50 Add
18389G FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 VR6 1/92 >7/94 82.50 Add
18389G FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 16V 8/92 >7/94 82.50 Add
18389J FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 1.6 8/95 >2/99 76.50 Add
18389J FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 2.0 8v MPi 8/94 >2/99 76.50 Add
18389J FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 1.4 8/95 >12/97 76.50 Add
18389J FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 16V & VR6 8/94 >12/97 76.50 Add

Current Prices from German & Swedish. This list is for VW Golf mk 3.
More than enough for most Stylus cars. Just need a lifter pump.
I run a small solid state unit but they arer not recomended as they need some back pressure.
The other option is to spend multiples of 100 £s to achieve the same.

Merry Christmas all
Kev

Thanks for that Kev, i'll go and have a look tomorrow as there is a branch very near to me.

Phil

Bikenuts · Post by **Bikenuts** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:55 am

Another cheap option is an inline pump like this one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... &rd=1&rd=1

The same people have others too.

If it will fuel a Bentley turbo it should cope with most things

Post by **MattD** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:22 pm

Hi Phil

This is how I did mine, mounting under rear wheel arch (seemed a good idea at the time !!, but now I've thought about rear impact, maybe not... ?!?).
Rover SD1 V8 high pressure pump, Car Builder Solutions Swirl Pot, halfords fuel filter up front, retained the existing facet red top pump to fill the Swirl Pot. Ran a new steel fuel return pipe alongside the steel feed, & rubber fuel hosed the rest.
Don't forget to flare the pipe ends, or use the proper braided stuff !

Cheers

Matt

Added by BBmanager in case the pictures dissapear from postimage.org

BAILSWGT214 · Post by **BAILSWGT214** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 6:30 pm

Hi Phil
you had a look at my car at Eelmoor in the pouring rain , swirl pot , high pressure fuel pump and fuel filter all mounted under front wing drivers side ,
I ran fuel pipe supply and return down top of tunnel , return feeding back down into fuel tank through fuel sender unit
have alook at the SBD MOTORSPORT web site very useful tech instructions sheets for plumbing in new system , as Matt was using one as seen in his
photo , if you want any photos I will see what I can do

cheers Andy

Schrodinger · Post by **Schrodinger** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 8:06 pm

kevp wrote:This is the set up I use.

18389D FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 1.6 9/92 >7/94 72.50 Add
18389D FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 1.8 SPi 11/91 >7/94 72.50 Add
18389D FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 1.4 11/91 >7/94 72.50 Add
18389F FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 1.8 SPi 8/94 >2/99 74.50 Add
18389F FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 1.4 & 1.6 8/94 >7/95 74.50 Add
18389G FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 2.0 8v MPi 11/91 >7/94 82.50 Add
18389G FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 VR6 1/92 >7/94 82.50 Add
18389G FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 16V 8/92 >7/94 82.50 Add
18389J FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 1.6 8/95 >2/99 76.50 Add
18389J FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 2.0 8v MPi 8/94 >2/99 76.50 Add
18389J FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 1.4 8/95 >12/97 76.50 Add
18389J FUEL PUMP+SWIRL POT G3 16V & VR6 8/94 >12/97 76.50 Add

Current Prices from German & Swedish. This list is for VW Golf mk 3.
More than enough for most Stylus cars. Just need a lifter pump.
I run a small solid state unit but they arer not recomended as they need some back pressure.
The other option is to spend multiples of 100 £s to achieve the same.

Merry Christmas all
Kev

Kev
I thought that the Mk 3 had an in tank pump/swirl pot
The Mk1/2 GTi uses an accumulator (acts as a swirl pot) and pump which can be picked up on flea bay at reasonable prices butyou will still need a low preasure pump to feed the accumulator.

kevp · Post by **kevp** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 12:54 am

Schrodinger Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Injector Pump & Swirl Pot

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Kev
I thought that the Mk 3 had an in tank pump/swirl pot
The Mk1/2 GTi uses an accumulator (acts as a swirl pot) and pump which can be picked up on flea bay at reasonable prices butyou will still need a low preasure pump to feed the accumulator.

Sorry. I think I am running a Mk2 system.

I liked the method that Bikenuts mentioned - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... &rd=1&rd=1 - But feel there is an advantage to having a swirl pot (accumulator) to eliminate tank scaveging problems whilst cornering etc.

Cerberus · Post by **Cerberus** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:26 pm

For all your input chaps, the engine is in and turning over, tomorrow i will try and wire the loom and ECU in, as the woman will be chained to the cooker.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to Everybody.

Phil

stylussprinter · Post by **stylussprinter** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:54 am

Cerberus wrote:For all your input chaps, the engine is in and turning over, tomorrow i will try and wire the loom and ECU in, as the woman will be chained to the cooker.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to Everybody.

Phil

BRAVE man Phil' , even I didn't work on my Stylus on xmas day

Apart from that day , any friend of mine who called round during the build wanting to see me got told '' He's down the shed with his BLOW UP DOLL

''

So can we expect a sound video of engine at 7000 rpm

Happy xmas

Regards Rob.

Cerberus · Post by **Cerberus** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:49 pm

Well it's in and it runs, i'm just waiting for the swirl pot and another fuel pump to arrive then i can plumb it all in nicely, then i need to make the exhaust manifold(it's a bit loud at the moment)then i need some f/glass bits from Tim, so hopefully about 2/3 weeks then i can let you know what difference 85 horses make

Phil

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