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Re: Hyd' clutch

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Cerberus wrote:
stylussprinter wrote: The only billet alloy engine I've ever seen other than this one is a BUGATTI


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Sorry Rob, i was merely pointing out that there are more than two billet engines. the Bugatti isn't 2 litre either is it :roll:

Phil :D
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AT LAST !

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Just finished fitting the engine which is all bolted up , apart from two ' nuts ' underneath that hold the engine mounts in :roll: Trumpets had to come off though . Feel happier now it's sitting in there rather than on the floor :lol:
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hey rob! thats lookin a bit nice isn't it!

i've been out in the tangarine machine today. first time in a while! had to come home a bit quick though or i'd have been caught in a thunder storm. i was racing the rain back to mine! got a few little niggly problems to sort out before the runway trial at the weekend!

still, the 10 minutes of driving i did get put a smile back on my face!

can't wait to see your finished car!
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LOOKIN GOOD !

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Thanks Alec,
I'm so busy in the day this year that it's taking for ever it seems but it is getting there. Biggest problem is trying to stop myself ' upgrading every damn thing ' :roll: Last night I looked at the plumbing and thought --- this is the time to change the rubber to silicon 8) --- trouble is I've been doing that all through the job and it's gets ' out of budget ' :shock: So it's going to get plumbed back as was this time :cry: although I did spoil myself to a nice alloy water tank and dumped the poly jobby :lol:
Biggest problem will be the air box as nobody makes one deep enough for the 115mm trumpets also no backplate on the shelf for these bodies. Then I have to find a way through to the front grill for a 4 inch or larger air duct ------ no room in the wheel arch :lol: it's full of wheel :lol:
I just love the Stylus but she keeps swallowing £££ !
Alfa Red 159 2.4 jtdm ti 260bhp 365lbft / BilsteinB12 + Adjustable Powerflex camber/castor bushes. Red STYLUS 2lt zetec 231bhp 185lbft Dunnell . RED 1972 Alfa 2lt GTAm replica 170bhp.
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Bit further

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Exhaust manifold , water rail done Sunday p.m. and plumbed it all last night .Ordered an airbox from MAMBA without air inlet so's I can cut/shut to suit :wink: Still got the backplate to source . Then it's pipe to the grill . After that or before there's the engine loom to do :roll: Can't see me ready for testing on 2nd AUG at Goodwood :cry:

Just been told the airbox wont be ready till 23rd July then it's got to be posted . Really need to work on the alloy engine guard and fibre glass to accomodate it BUT no good till it's here :twisted:
I just love the Stylus but she keeps swallowing £££ !
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Wire strippers

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Having real trouble with the engine loom wiring. The wire itself is so very thin --- about 1.25mm including the outer covering , then the wire is silver based so very delicate. Dunnell told me to buy this all singing and dancing auto wire stripper from RS cos the others on the market were crap but at 40 odd quid , to use once I thought nah , I'll get a cheaper one and be careful -- ha :shock: Having been told today at MAPLINS that this stripper at £6 would do any fine wire no problem :lol: -----------I bought it and Paul Dunnell's right it was crap :evil: You can adjust it all day but if it's tight enough to just cut the outer , it then shreds the wire some . Even then the outer's not cut properly :evil: SO -- I've had to order an RS one anyway ------------- should've listened to experience :roll:
I just love the Stylus but she keeps swallowing £££ !
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Post by alecmartin19 »

oh dear rob! is that 6 quid wasted?

its probably ok for house wiring and solid core copper wire!

i've found as with a lot of things over the years i've been buying tools and stuff for my garage, you really do get what you pay for!

unfortunately, that means shelling out on good kit that you may only use once ever! thigs like brake piston wind back tools or things like that!

ah well! hope you get them soon and get everything sorted with your wiring!

my car's ready to go now!
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Air filter/pipe

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It's getting very close to Llandow so made a decision today on which filter and air duct to use , even though the airbox isn't here yet ! Bought a 4 inch flexy air duct and a BMC conical filter with 4inch exit . It's cleanable not throw away . All I need to do now it squeeze the damn thing into the grill area hopefully facing forward --------- it's very tight against the radiator(read hot :!: ) so some of the cool air will be warmed a little. Alternative is to site it sideways like Andy Bailey's car but that will lose some ram effect . We'll see :roll:
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wire stripper saga

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The tool arrived today so started the loom and it's absolutely brilliant -- does what it says on the box which it damn well should for £40 :shock: I'm struggling with the instructions though , not being into electrics . It's also dead easy to forget what should go onto the wire before you crimp it :roll: Cable cover/heat shrink/rubber boot/gromet then into the connector ---------- at which point I realised the heat shrink was missing on one injector boot/cover -------- too late :cry: For those of you who use multimeters , you'll wonder what the problem is but for me , when 4 black wires from the ECU have to go in two directions ----------- it's a pain in the arse :evil: All same size cable too. I've never possessed or know how to use a multimeter so things have come to a halt :!:
Phoned Dunnell and you can guess what he said '' quite simple , just use a multimeter '' :roll: By comparison my loom for the carbs was a doddle .
I just love the Stylus but she keeps swallowing £££ !
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You can get a cheap digital multimeter from maplins or similar stores for roughly £10. If you just need to trace which wire is which all you do is set it to measure resistance.
If you're tracing unconnected wire from one end to the other it's the ones that change the display from 0 to something else.
If you're tracing wires already connected to the ECU etc then start at the loose end and test where they connect to the ECU. Lowest number that isn't 0 should be a pair.

I'm just going from general electronics experience here and not wiring a car (haven't been so daring yet) but it should be very similar.



http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?Mod ... 9&doy=18m7
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drhunter wrote:You can get a cheap digital multimeter from maplins or similar stores for roughly £10. If you just need to trace which wire is which all you do is set it to measure resistance.
If you're tracing unconnected wire from one end to the other it's the ones that change the display from 0 to something else.
If you're tracing wires already connected to the ECU etc then start at the loose end and test where they connect to the ECU. Lowest number that isn't 0 should be a pair.

I'm just going from general electronics experience here and not wiring a car (haven't been so daring yet) but it should be very similar.



http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?Mod ... 9&doy=18m7
Thans , I'll give that a whirl :roll:
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Multimeter

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Yes , I did buy a multimeter but the damn thing only worked showing battery condition. Switched to ohms for resistance testing --- absolutely nowt happpened :shock: Had conversations with 2 or 3 people and the theory seemed to be that the analogue cheapy I bought wasn't sensitive enough or it was bust :roll: Today Andy Bailey came to see me and brought various handy bits of ' kit ' plus a digital multimeter ---------- BINGO :lol: works a treat so finished the wiring after we watched F1 --------- Cheers Andy . Just the 9 pin plug to get soldered onto 3 wires from the ECU then fix it somewhere so the laptop can get plugged in to check it all out before attempting to start it.
Before that I'm still waiting for an airbox to arrive plus the fuel lines aren't joined up yet (10mm down to 8 or is it 6 :?: I'll have to measure it -- can't think why fuel rails /pumps/filtersaren't fitted with 10mm fittings :? )

Still sorting exhaust/tyres but did get the air duct 4 inch pipe plus BMC filter ready for the airbox.

Last minute thought grabbed me last week that I hadn't tried fitting the linkage I have -------- definately wouldn't fit :shock: Phone Dunnell pannicking to buy his for speed , only to be told the manifold/Throttle Bodies need machining to accept his linkage :shock: So I took the whole lot off the engine and posted them up to him on Friday. I was not ammused and did wonder why he didn't say something re -- linkage when collecting my engine . Would have made ' sales ' sense :roll:
I just love the Stylus but she keeps swallowing £££ !
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T B's

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Dunnell returned the bodies/manifold today a.m. so they got put back on after getting some auto silicon . He doesn't use gaskets .
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9 pin whats - it -thingame jig

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Dean came today with lap top and solder skills (I'm crap at it as my glasses are in focus at 15 inches and the terminals are too small for me to do at that distance) All sorted fairly quickly so decided to check out the wiring with the laptop and Dunnell disc. Problem arising was the current drawn from the battery to turn the engine meant it soon slowed before the PC had time to recognise the crank sensor. Charged a bit then removed the plugs and tried again -------- sorted , PC said sensor/wiring was ok except the cam sensor which Dunnell said would only be checkable once the engine runs . There's no fueling yet cos I can't locate the adapters for 8mm down to 6mm fuel rail pipe ---- it would be so easy if the fuel rail had 8mm ID :evil: So that's it till fueling's sorted before full check can be done and engine started. Even with my new 14 to 1 starter the red top 8 doesn't spin the engine very fast so I may have to go for the red top 20 --------- one more mistake :?: Plenty of racers I know run on red top 8's and use TB's also 2lt engines and standard starters --------- very strange :roll:
Air box is held up due to floods apparently. On the saga goes. COME BACK WEBER 45'S -- ALL IS FORGIVEN :lol:
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Progress !

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Air box f/glass shell arrived Thurday so made a paper pattern off the Throttle Bodies and drilled the box out to suit. Steering column was in the way of the bottom of the airbox by the number 4 cylinder so cut/shut that with alloy/Sikaflex. Also cut 4 inch hole for the air duct but couldn't find space to fit the air sensor in Dunnell's preferred position SO it went in the middle. Sikaflexed the duct in and painted the lot red. Now need to fit some sort of closing mechanism --- over centre locks maybe -- we'll see :roll:
Overall I'm very pleased with this box. A bare shell , granted , but at £150 plus vat when nobody else makes a 215mmm deep airbox , I think is bloody good. All the others are too shallow and hundreds of pounds :shock:
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