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Flywheels and sumps
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:55 am
by PeteC
I am fitting the zetec out of an automatic and will be replacing the flywheel, reading thru various web pages the 1.6 and 1.8 flywheels fit, my question is are they both the same or is the 1.6 lighter? I spoke to Dave at retro ford because he was advertising flywheels at £80 but he said if I lighten it to much I'll loose torque? (maybe I should fit a 200kg one
)!! Not convinced the retro ford product is not a lightened cast item anyway. Has anybody justified the considerable amount of money for a 6.5kg flywheel from Burtons/Raceline etc? or do I just use the smaller cast wheel?
While I'm on the subject of zetecs does anybody know where i can get a cheaper sump from? again Burtons/Raceline etc are very expensive while I'm very poor
!!
Re: Flywheels and sumps
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:59 pm
by stylussprinter
PeteC wrote:I am fitting the zetec out of an automatic and will be replacing the flywheel, reading thru various web pages the 1.6 and 1.8 flywheels fit, my question is are they both the same or is the 1.6 lighter? I spoke to Dave at retro ford because he was advertising flywheels at £80 but he said if I lighten it to much I'll loose torque? (maybe I should fit a 200kg one
)!! Not convinced the retro ford product is not a lightened cast item anyway. Has anybody justified the considerable amount of money for a 6.5kg flywheel from Burtons/Raceline etc? or do I just use the smaller cast wheel?
While I'm on the subject of zetecs does anybody know where i can get a cheaper sump from? again Burtons/Raceline etc are very expensive while I'm very poor
!!
Poor or not , I advise you fit a steel lightened balanced flywheel . If the engine's uprated at a later stage you'll have the flywheel in , saving engine out. Zetecs have very good torque anyway plus the car it came from weighs twice as much so torque will be fine and you get far better response with the lighter steel one plus it's safer. If you think you might push some more grunt into it in the not too distant future then give it a H/D clutch too. Standard clutch's don't last long if you've grunt and use it. My H/D clutch is the original one from the 1999 build and it's had 6 years competition. The plate could easily have been used for my new power lift as it's barely worn BUT I've opted for a paddle clutch plate this time to allow modulation. The pressure cover is being re-used and it's perfect. SO well worth the money Pete
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:39 pm
by Werner Van Loock
The 1.6 and 1.8 should be the same ad a lot lighter then the 2L one.
As for sump, check this
http://www.scholarengines.co.uk/Lowline%20sump.htm, is bit cheaper, but what's wronf with a standard escort zetec sump? 3inches less deep then the mondeo one, so if you're not planning to lower the car, then this should be sufficiant.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:44 pm
by Schrodinger
If you didn't already realise you will also need a housing for the crank position sensor from a manual engine as the pickup will not be in the correct position having changed the flywheel.
Scholar will also lighten and balance a flywheel for you.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:46 pm
by Werner Van Loock
I have one of those housings here extra as I bought a seized 1.6 for the sump. Can take it with me to llandow if you can wait that long. Also have the extra sensor off course.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:43 pm
by PeteC
Thanks Werner, that would be helpful. If I get one in the meantime, I'll let you know so that you won't have to bother bringing it!! Will have a look around to see if I can get the sump of an escort as suggested above, but may have to buy the complete engine and therefore the sensor comes free..
Really looking forward to Llandow
shame I'll be in a ford focus
, but it will be good to have faces to go with the names.
Thanks all Pete..
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:36 pm
by Werner Van Loock
Still need the sensor housing? And I'll be with a focus too.
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:25 pm
by PeteC
sorry for the delay in replying, but yes please to the sensor. where are you up to with your build?
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:26 pm
by Werner Van Loock
I'll take it with me. Will throw it in the car this evening.
Just need to make a 10mm spacer to fit between the clutch release bearing and the pressure plate fingers. And the engine without inlet and exhaust is ready.
So somewhere next weekend I'l be bringing the car over to the garage and the real work can start