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Inaugeral JPSCC event

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:29 pm
by stylussprinter
This event was sponsered by CKC Mag' at NORTHAMPTON MOTORSPORT's rolling road . We had a TENG TOOLS 20% discount card given to us along with their catalogue . CKC also gave us all lunch plus their latest magazine issue. Quite a good opportunity to network so pointed out that my antirolbar will fit any inboard rocker ' car ' with minor redesign of the bottom brackets for some.
One or two were interested to look and one expressed doubt as whether it did any good :shock: Adam Wilkins from CKC took photo's of us all plus the cars. The rollers didn't show that I had the power I believed . However , at Llandow it kept pace with Tim's RT 225bhp Duratec car and it weighs about 50kgs less than mine . Tim's 9 st and I'm 12.5 st on a good day plus Matt D. in the passenger seat. :roll: :roll: :roll:

It's difficult to know what to think with ''rollers'' but Tim could previously leave me on the straights when I had 205bhp flywheel/ 170bhp @wheels . I might ring TROY and have a little chat in case I'm misreading the readout sheet :oops: I'll tell you what it says once clarified :wink:
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:58 pm
by Werner Van Loock
Where did "Demon Tweeks" go? I liked that one over the bonnet.

The event did it also include driving or only rollers?

D Tweeks ?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:17 pm
by stylussprinter
I took it off in favour of DUNNELL's . Should have left it really as I get 10% discount from them but don't buy much from them now :oops:
No driving unfortunately , just the rollers session and I presume a write up at some point in CKC :roll:
They did come down to LLANDOW for us so thought I should support it plus it was the new club EVENT(JPSCC) On top of that , SSC doesn't get advertised these days so wanted to keep the '' marque '' exposed :D
Rob .

Re: Inaugeral JPSCC event

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:27 pm
by stylussprinter
stylussprinter wrote:This event was sponsered by CKC Mag' at NORTHAMPTON MOTORSPORT's rolling road . We had a TENG TOOLS 20% discount card given to us along with their catalogue . CKC also gave us all lunch plus their latest magazine issue. Quite a good opportunity to network so pointed out that my antirolbar will fit any inboard rocker ' car ' with minor redesign of the bottom brackets for some.
One or two were interested to look and one expressed doubt as whether it did any good :shock: Adam Wilkins from CKC took photo's of us all plus the cars. The rollers didn't show that I had the power I believed . However , at Llandow it kept pace with Tim's RT 225bhp Duratec car and it weighs about 50kgs less than mine . Tim's 9 st and I'm 12.5 st on a good day plus Matt D. in the passenger seat. :roll: :roll: :roll:

It's difficult to know what to think with ''rollers'' but Tim could previously leave me on the straights when I had 205bhp flywheel/ 170bhp @wheels . I might ring TROY and have a little chat in case I'm misreading the readout sheet :oops: I'll tell you what it says once clarified :wink:
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Well , I've decided not to phone Troy to tell him his rollers OR operator :roll: is not reading correctly . Before I had work done on my engine this year , it gave a genuine 170bhp at the wheels at 7000rpm. That was with a standard bottom end , standard valves/springs , fast road cams and light head work , using Weber 45's with 40 chokes .
Since then it's had totally lightened, balanced bottom end,extensive head work,big valves/competition springs,pocketed pistons,race cams and sequential throttle bodies with cold air box / ram pipe. This produced 237bhp on the dyno at Dunnell's . Dunnell then brought it back to 232bhp to give better mid range torque. SO --- I expected between 190 & 195 at the wheels. Troy's print out for my engine said 154bhp at the wheels and 186 at the flywheel :shock: :shock: :shock:
It's obviously not correct OR I'd never have kept pace with Tim's RT Duratec & me carrying a passenger :roll: nuff said :wink:

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:58 pm
by Cerberus
I know this sounds silly Rob, but from my experiance most rolling roads give different readings you would think they would be the same wouldn't you. i have heard of a -50bhp to a +10bhp on three different RR's

Phil
:D

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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:06 am
by stylussprinter
Then I'd rather trust the dyno the engine was run in on == Dunnells :wink:

Re: Inaugeral JPSCC event

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 6:53 pm
by norma
stylussprinter wrote:
stylussprinter wrote:This event was sponsered by CKC Mag' at NORTHAMPTON MOTORSPORT's rolling road . We had a TENG TOOLS 20% discount card given to us along with their catalogue . CKC also gave us all lunch plus their latest magazine issue. Quite a good opportunity to network so pointed out that my antirolbar will fit any inboard rocker ' car ' with minor redesign of the bottom brackets for some.
One or two were interested to look and one expressed doubt as whether it did any good :shock: Adam Wilkins from CKC took photo's of us all plus the cars. The rollers didn't show that I had the power I believed . However , at Llandow it kept pace with Tim's RT 225bhp Duratec car and it weighs about 50kgs less than mine . Tim's 9 st and I'm 12.5 st on a good day plus Matt D. in the passenger seat. :roll: :roll: :roll:

It's difficult to know what to think with ''rollers'' but Tim could previously leave me on the straights when I had 205bhp flywheel/ 170bhp @wheels . I might ring TROY and have a little chat in case I'm misreading the readout sheet :oops: I'll tell you what it says once clarified :wink:
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Well , I've decided not to phone Troy to tell him his rollers OR operator :roll: is not reading correctly . Before I had work done on my engine this year , it gave a genuine 170bhp at the wheels at 7000rpm. That was with a standard bottom end , standard valves/springs , fast road cams and light head work , using Weber 45's with 40 chokes .
Since then it's had totally lightened, balanced bottom end,extensive head work,big valves/competition springs,pocketed pistons,race cams and sequential throttle bodies with cold air box / ram pipe. This produced 237bhp on the dyno at Dunnell's . Dunnell then brought it back to 232bhp to give better mid range torque. SO --- I expected between 190 & 195 at the wheels. Troy's print out for my engine said 154bhp at the wheels and 186 at the flywheel :shock: :shock: :shock:
It's obviously not correct OR I'd never have kept pace with Tim's RT Duratec & me carrying a passenger :roll: nuff said :wink:
That's interesting because when i got mine rolling roaded by Troy - it was also down on power according to the results - but then, Troy did make a school boy error when mapping my car anyway so I wont be going back there.....! :(

Re: Northamptom

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:34 am
by Cerberus
I have found the RR report for my engine dynoed at Northampton motorsport and it shows my engine with 183.5 @ flywheel and 145 @ wheels, i tell you it didn't feel like it had that much so perhaps their rollers go either way +/- like i said before.

Phil
:D

Re: Northamptom

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:59 pm
by stylussprinter
Cerberus wrote:I have found the RR report for my engine dynoed at Northampton motorsport and it shows my engine with 183.5 @ flywheel and 145 @ wheels, i tell you it didn't feel like it had that much so perhaps their rollers go either way +/- like i said before.

Phil
:D
H'mmm , well I prefer to believe Dunnell's engine dyno where my engine showed 237bhp which he then modified back to 231bhp to give better mid range torque. He actually sells this level ' kit ' as being his 225 bhp spec' . :roll: