clubstylus

Bottom swivel
(Front suspension) QR 1774RHT

The above is the quoted bottom ball joint on the Stylus - is this the one for the escort upright (and the sierra with an added conical shim) or is it one that fits the Sierra upright only?

I have measured the Sierra upright for the taper of the lower ball joint, details as follows:
Top (smallest diameter) = 14.5mm
Bottom (largest diameter) = 16.5mm
Depth of taper = 16mm (this is the length over which it must taper).

Once I get the above question confirmed I will look to see if I can find a part specifically for the Sierra upright, then when anyone comes to change, or wants to change, they will have an option - no guarantee there is a perfect fit out there.

Q.

acrobin wrote:Bottom swivel
(Front suspension) QR 1774RHT

The above is the quoted bottom ball joint on the Stylus - is this the one for the escort upright (and the sierra with an added conical shim) or is it one that fits the Sierra upright only?

I have measured the Sierra upright for the taper of the lower ball joint, details as follows:
Top (smallest diameter) = 14.5mm
Bottom (largest diameter) = 16.5mm
Depth of taper = 16mm (this is the length over which it must taper).

Once I get the above question confirmed I will look to see if I can find a part specifically for the Sierra upright, then when anyone comes to change, or wants to change, they will have an option - no guarantee there is a perfect fit out there.

Q.

That number refers to the ROVER SHERPA track rod end and suits the Escort. I have no knowledge of the SIERRA dimensions . They weren't used for many cars as the geometry's not as good. If you fancy a final but expensive solution then a nice alloy upright's the way to go with rodends I can get a pair made in billet with excellent geometry

Rod, thanks, Ady said they tried to keep the same ball joint as used on the Escort upright and just use a conical shim.

I will use my dimensions I took and the Sherpa van part details to see if I can source a better fit part.

Yes I would love to go for a pair of ally escort uprights, but...not for this car. I was going to race it, but now am going the BEC route with a R1ot; the R1ot will get the fancy parts, the stylus will be a every day fun road car.

I will upgrade the Stylus as the spring rates are as of what Pete sold (180s fr, 160s rr), also I will make some rear radius arms to accomidate longer suspension travel - just not from day one.

Are the rockerarms for the Sierra and Escort upright different? If not, I would just get some escort uprights and replace the sierra units.

Yes Escort or equivalent would be the thing to do, but I bought the car as a rolling chassis and that is a package of uprights, brakes, pads and discs - I would have to expend too much to change when I have had no use out of what I have currently bought.

I will over time look to replace the Sierra uprights, but not in one go.

Number 1, get the car on the road and in use.

....then upgrade - Steering wheel first (want a quick release wheel), springs possibly combined with the rear radius arms then look to upgrade brakes and front uprights.

I will have to set a priority order and that may get upset by essentials I find I need when driving it.

I should have insisted on Escort uprights when I ordered the car, I did not know just how much of a compromise Sierra ones were.

"Are the rocker arms for the Sierra and Escort upright different? " - still need this answered though.

The Stylus RT rockers are longer from axis to upright for the Sierra uprights to account for the extra width of an RT. However if it's a classic , they'll be the same length as for Escort uprights.

You could always flog your sierra package to a FURY builder or another SYLVA marque then buy a pair of Escorts ready cut / shut from Matt D. on this forum. How do I know he's got some ----------------- cos he bought mine to put on his car

I just got a price to get a pair of one-offs made to the correct spec. (better in that the spindle could be longer to stop the rubber being squashed) - £60 (Amsteer).

May be cheaper if I can get a number made.

I will do some more digging to see if there are any "Off the self" options.

Yes, the Escort uprights are tempting.

I will keep you posted.

TRIED FISHER FURY?

I will try BGH (Fisher Fury) - I have a call in with Quinton Hazel, so I'm looking.

As Rob says I've got a spare pair of Escort uprights in the garage.

I modded Robs old one, & they are now on my car.

I was keeping the old originals as spares, but could be tempted to part with them.

Send me a pm if interested.

Matt

Had some feedback from Fisher that I need to follow up - will keep you posted