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Brake Master Cylinder & a Shocking Hand brake

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:43 am
by PuppiesBalls
Evening Gents,
Im looking to replace my brake master cylinder, It currently has the brake servo off the donor car & braking requires substantial leaning on the pedal!

Its got a bias valve for the rear so I think I could get away with just a single, slightly larger master cylinder... Any suggestions dudes :D


My handbreak is rubbish too, any suggestions to make it hold harder?

Thanks Gents :D

Re: Brake Master Cylinder & a Shocking Hand brake

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:37 pm
by stylussprinter
PuppiesBalls wrote:Evening Gents,
Im looking to replace my brake master cylinder, It currently has the brake servo off the donor car & braking requires substantial leaning on the pedal!

Its got a bias valve for the rear so I think I could get away with just a single, slightly larger master cylinder... Any suggestions dudes :D


My handbreak is rubbish too, any suggestions to make it hold harder?

Thanks Gents :D
I've never used a servo on my Stylus and the brakes are very good . Personally I'd dump the servo and fit good cylinders for each . ie. front and rear. Either way a car weighing 600kgs doesn't need a servo , just good discs , pads (preferably Hawk) . If I put my handbrake on the car's going absolutely nowhere :roll: so first of all I'd check out the drums/linings or disc's/pads etc and the cable :wink:
You'll get a much better feel of the car by pressing a touch harder but using good components :wink:

Re: Brake Master Cylinder & a Shocking Hand brake

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:42 pm
by PuppiesBalls
Yeah I was planning to dump the servo, I really dont think there is any need!
I think it will be more suitable for my setup if i had just a single cylinder for both front & rear rather than twin, afterall I can control the brake bias so theres no need to complicate the system :)

Re: Brake Master Cylinder & a Shocking Hand brake

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:28 pm
by PuppiesBalls
Think I will be following Robs suggestions & going for a twin cylinder pedal box after all :D
Any suggestions what size to go for?
Cheers

Re: Brake Master Cylinder & a Shocking Hand brake

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:31 pm
by stylussprinter
What size discs have you :?: What callipers are you using :?:

Re: Brake Master Cylinder & a Shocking Hand brake

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:57 pm
by PuppiesBalls
Disc size- Dont know...oh and Calipers..Dont know that either
Not much help there then lol :D

I will measure up the discs tonight, & take a few pics of the brakes maybe someone will know what they are :mrgreen:

Re: Brake Master Cylinder & a Shocking Hand brake

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:01 pm
by PuppiesBalls
Rear Discs- 10" -Non vented
Front Discs- 9" - Vented
Thats not a typo- The fronts are smaller than the rear! :shock:

Rear Caliper-
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Front Caliper-
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Re: Brake Master Cylinder & a Shocking Hand brake

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:09 pm
by stylussprinter
They're not a pretty sight :( Floating and cast iron too :roll: I know budget controls all but I'd change to WILLWOOD with some HAWK pads plus sort the cylinders :roll: sorry :oops:

Re: Brake Master Cylinder & a Shocking Hand brake

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:12 pm
by PuppiesBalls
stylussprinter wrote:They're not a pretty sight :( Floating and cast iron too :roll: I know budget controls all but I'd change to WILLWOOD with some HAWK pads plus sort the cylinders :roll: sorry :oops:
Whats wrong with Floating calipers? thousands of cars come out of the factory with them fitted every day,
Its just the manufacturers way to reduce cost as they only require 1 pot where as fixed calipers would require 2 or more.
Any idea roughly how much a set of front & rear brakes will cost from wilwood?
Also any suggestion what size master cylinders to use?

Many thanks :)

Re: Brake Master Cylinder & a Shocking Hand brake

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:58 pm
by stylussprinter
PuppiesBalls wrote:
stylussprinter wrote:They're not a pretty sight :( Floating and cast iron too :roll: I know budget controls all but I'd change to WILLWOOD with some HAWK pads plus sort the cylinders :roll: sorry :oops:
Whats wrong with Floating calipers? thousands of cars come out of the factory with them fitted every day,
Its just the manufacturers way to reduce cost as they only require 1 pot where as fixed calipers would require 2 or more.
Any idea roughly how much a set of front & rear brakes will cost from wilwood?
Also any suggestion what size master cylinders to use?

Many thanks :)
Floaters easily jam plus they're cast iron , that's enough for me. Can't compare lightweight kit cars with production logic/costs :wink:
Regarding cost of callipers and cylinders , size etc , I don't know off hand . When I've got time I'll take a look at mine(forgotten what's fitted - too long ago :lol: ) It's sheeted up now. Check out their website for costs :wink:

Re: Brake Master Cylinder & a Shocking Hand brake

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:00 pm
by PuppiesBalls
What should I buy brakes for? E.g mk2 escort, im guessing the dont list them as brakes for Stylus kit car :D

Re: Brake Master Cylinder & a Shocking Hand brake

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:17 pm
by stylussprinter
Yes , if that's what uprights you have but they might be sierra :?: I've never seen callipers like that on a Ford though so it depends what's been put on the car . That guy did some aweful things to it :roll:

Re: Brake Master Cylinder & a Shocking Hand brake

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:20 pm
by alecmartin19
the front caliper in the picture above looks very much like my sierra calipers.

Re: Brake Master Cylinder & a Shocking Hand brake

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:37 pm
by PuppiesBalls
alecmartin19 wrote:the front caliper in the picture above looks very much like my sierra calipers.
Thanks dude, Im Loving that air scoop, It suits the stylus down to the ground :P Do you have any more pics of it?

Re: Brake Master Cylinder & a Shocking Hand brake

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:59 pm
by alecmartin19
thanks! i love the look of your car! the colour is different. i like it!

i'm not sure if there are any pics under members and their cars on the homepage. there may be some there including some when i was either making the scoop or painting it. If not though, send me your email address and i'll take some for you.

how you getting on with finding out which brakes you have?