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Side windows
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:49 pm
by Blitz
Hi all, I have been looking at fitting the side screens to the door. I have not managed to see many pictures of the fixing kit so wndered ifany one can shed some light on it for me. Are the screens removeable once fitted? Is it just an ali bracket with a bit of polycarbonate bolted to it? What is the finished result like? Or would it be worth while making wind up windows? Has anyone made wind up windows and if so how difficult is it?
Loads of questions I know but i figured you guys probably have the answers!
All help greatly received!
Cheers
Re: Side windows
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:57 pm
by stylussprinter
Blitz wrote:Hi all, I have been looking at fitting the side screens to the door. I have not managed to see many pictures of the fixing kit so wndered ifany one can shed some light on it for me. Are the screens removeable once fitted? Is it just an ali bracket with a bit of polycarbonate bolted to it? What is the finished result like? Or would it be worth while making wind up windows? Has anyone made wind up windows and if so how difficult is it?
Loads of questions I know but i figured you guys probably have the answers!
All help greatly received!
Cheers
Hello ,
Best thing is to cut the upright f/glass which is 90 degrees to the top of the door -- off ! Reason being you can then fit an aluminium angle at just the right place(not controlled by the f/glass shape) so as to get a good fit with the screen upright . ie you can change the alignment with the door top. Scratch the aluminium underneath and part drill some holes in the f/glass plus the alloy angle. Use boat glue(mix of 3 things -- brilliant strong result) Clamp it till fixed. After that you can bolt with rivnuts through the screen base into rivnutted alloy(which you have previously drilled/rivnutted before glueing !) Then to make the screen put pressure against the windscreen upright simply run small plastic or any small diameter compressable tube along the length of the sidescreen base. Having done that , as you bolt up the sidescreen it will press tightly against the rubbered edge of your windscreen upright. BINGO ! no leaks or wind wabblees ! Crude but it works. Winding windows will make your car more roady but add weight . If you spray paint the alloy angle when the car's painted , you could remove the screens in the summer days and it would still look good . You will have to remove them for SVA because the examiner will test your ability to adjust the mirrors from the driving seat ! So you make sure the mirrors are bolted through the screen edge alloy(nice and high) and the screen , obviously so you can bolt the mirrors either way , with or without screens.
I have photos of my build at all stages but not on digi pic's . I you are'nt to far you can borrow the album.
Hope that helps , Rob.
side windows
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:57 pm
by Blitz
Cheers Rob,
Thats a great help. guess i just have to go and get on with it now then!
Cheers
Neil
Re: side windows
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 3:47 pm
by stylussprinter
Blitz wrote:Cheers Rob,
Thats a great help. guess i just have to go and get on with it now then!
Cheers
Neil
Take your time and you'll be glad you cut the f/glass upright 2 inches off because you'll find that to get the screen to shut tight onto the windscreen rubber -- it helps to fit the alloy angle off-line from the f/glass that you cut off . Have fun ! glad to help.
Rob.
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:40 pm
by Ady8077
Hi
I've fitted wind up windows, wasn't too dificult, had to make a frame for the perspex to slide in and used the winder iff a mondeo
Adrian
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:30 pm
by hearbear
[quote="Ady8077"]Hi
I've fitted wind up windows, wasn't too dificult, had to make a frame for the perspex to slide in and used the winder iff a mondeo
Adrian
Do you have any more pictures of the build of the wind up windows you did? I have though about this for mine during the build. Wasn't sure if it could be done.
Cheers George
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:41 pm
by Ady8077
Heres the frame i made
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:43 pm
by Ady8077
And heres it fitted in the door, i had to cut most of the inner door away, the holes covered with a door card
Adrian
Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:12 pm
by Werner Van Loock
How does the door look like now on the inside? And what doorhandles did you use?
Can the wind-up windows be done before the door panels are bonded together so that it's not necessary to cut the whole innner door away?
Bloody hell, haven't started building yet and have a 1000 questions already
Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:10 pm
by Ady8077
Hi
You should be able to fit the frame before the doors bonded, but you will need access to the winder mech incase it goes wrong, you also need the hood fitted if you want to make sure the windows seal against it
I've attached a pic of the inside, I’ve made a door card mould out of mdf that I’m going to get a black plastic vac-forming made from, eventually
Adrian
side screens
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 6:29 pm
by Blitz
Hi Adrian,
thank you for the pictures and the explanation on the window, it certainly looks like you have done a great job on that. Having looked at loads of pictures for the side screen i did feel that the end result of bolting the screens in place does seam to look a bit naff on a car that looks fantastic. having sean what you have done i am going to have to give this some serious thought.
i may well come back to ask some more questions on how you managed it all if thats OK.
many thanks
Neil
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:43 pm
by Ady8077
Hi Neil
I think they look ok, took a few weekends work to weld up the frames and make up the grp trims. The windows have to drop at an angle to miss the door locks, and they dont fully retract because the doors arn't deep enough
Adrian
Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:26 pm
by Schrodinger
Adrian
How long have you had the windows in the car and do they show any signs of scratching?
On my Tiger Cat the Perspex side screens I made did end up quite scratched and they didn't wind up.
regards
Keith
Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:45 pm
by Ady8077
Hi Keith
I first tried polycarb for the windows but it got to scratched to seethrough after a couple of week
I'm now using perspex, no scratches after about a year
Adrian